davefreer ([info]davefreer) wrote,
@ 2009-07-05 12:08:00
Previous Entry  Add to memories!  Tell a Friend  Next Entry
Current mood: worried

H1N1 and winged piggies
I know - it's in the millions in the US. And the death toll is relatively small, thank heavens. But it's about to impact Southern Africa. And I think that may make Mexico look healthy. Our health ministry says its all under control - ooh look another winged pig flutters past... spreading disease! Which is why official numbers jumped from IIRC 8 on Friday to 29 by Sunday. Real figures (served without flying pork) are likely to somewhat higher, especially as the latest case was an athlete from Zimbabwe - WHO HAD NOT BEEN TO THE HIGH INFECTION SPOTS - like the US or UK, or Mexico. Ergo. H1N1 is on the loose in Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe doesn't HAVE a functional healthcare system (our public one is a train-wreck, but our private healthcare - while devilishly exploitatively expensive is 3rd best in the world). The people are wracked with malnutrition, and AIDS is rampant. (here not so much malnurition but still very high HIV + rates. True figures as I've said before are hard to find but somewhere between 10-30% The CIA world factbook estmates for 2007 as 5.7 million people. It will be very relevant to see how well immunocompromised people cope. I hope it'll only affect fatally the badly compromised.

I am - of course - worried for my family. My nephew has cf and is very vulnerable for that reason. But I am also worried for this country and those around it.




(9 comments) - (Post a new comment)


[info]fear_the_drool
2009-07-06 07:14 pm UTC (link)
Don't know about your nephew, but H1N1 is nasty. Both Molly and I caught it (official statistics, after 3 weeks of official denial).

We basically got better with antibiotics (for any secondary infections), sleep, tons of liquids and time. Took 3 weeks of painful, feverish time to get over it (mostly).

Funny thing, appetite never goes away on this one. You feel fine, when sitting down. Get up to use bathroom/etc and you spike to 102 degrees Fahrenheit. Sit down, all better. 3 weeks hardcore. Couple more draining (at least me, still hanging in upper chest. Yechh).

Molly, with all her problems healed up before me. Go figure.
I wish you and yours wellness and luck!

john
fear the drool, i am basset

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]davefreer
2009-07-06 07:23 pm UTC (link)
Good to know you both got better, Basset. I worry about Joe (nephew) and my older boy (he's fit and tough, but asthmatic)
Dave

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]fear_the_drool
2009-07-06 07:40 pm UTC (link)
Well, Sylvia is a hardcore asthmatic. Never even touched her. A mild infection 1-2 days, that's it. Kid and I were dying, hacking, coughing, draining everywhere (well, we were trying to be good about it), house was on quarantine (complete, for 5 weeks). She had no problems. Pissed me off that did, lol!

I wanted to make everyone as miserable as I was! Especially her, with all the snarky/smug comments from my "loyal" wife. Ha!

With any luck, he'll breeze past it all too. Stock up on antibiotics tho. I believe it's the secondaries that really make this bad/fatal. It seemed to us to be a longer version of regular flu ('cept, all upper respiratory and feeling normal when no exertion).

john
fear the drool, i am basset

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]seaboe
2009-07-07 04:15 pm UTC (link)
John said: "It seemed to us to be a longer version of regular flu ('cept, all upper respiratory and feeling normal when no exertion)."

The "all upper respiratory" is what makes it flu. Influenza is a respiratory disease, not a gastro-intestinal one.

I cannot recommend "Flu" by Gina Kolada highly enough. I think it should be one of those "everybody reads" books (except they always pick fiction books instead).

Lisa S. in Seattle

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]fear_the_drool
2009-07-07 05:53 pm UTC (link)
Yes, I know.

H1N1 "feels" different in my upper resp tract. Dunno how to explain how it felt. Heavier? Wetter? I do know that for both my daughter and myself the drainage went from sinuses direct into lungs. Not too much coughing (some of course), some snot, mostly straight into lungs. I can easily see why pneumonia is what does em in, in a lot of cases.

Trust me, it feels different from your average flu (so called modern flu, not your Spanish Flu type).

Never read that one, however, The Great Influenza by John Barry is an excellent read.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


(Anonymous)
2009-07-07 06:05 pm UTC (link)
It also didn't bother either one of us while at rest. Due to lack of coughing/snotting (reduced at least), you feel normal while at rest. You exert yourself (move to bathroom, kitchen, more than 2 feet) and your temperature goes from normal to high. Almost immediately.

So called "normal" temp of 98.6 degrees F shoots up to 102-103.4 (Molly tended to go the higer end), sit down and it went away. Weird.

Sitting, you feel perfectly healthy, heavy in chest, but that's it.

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]reverancepavane
2009-07-07 01:42 am UTC (link)

Of course, the curious thing about the 1918 Spanish Flu was the death rate amongst healthy individuals. This was because it wasn't the flu which killed the patients, but rather the immune system's response to it's presence. Immunologically impaired individuals were actually safer.

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]davefreer
2009-07-07 10:10 am UTC (link)
Yes, at first they thought that was the case this time too, but it turned out not so. Might still go that way, of course.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]fear_the_drool
2009-07-07 05:58 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, wait for the wetter, colder winter. Then wham-o! Come back harder, mutated and deadlier. That's when I hope Molly's and my antibodies work. I figure we're immune. I hope.

It sucked. A mild form, really sucked. I. Don't. Want. To. . A. Deadlier. Form.....

(Reply to this) (Parent)


(9 comments) - (Post a new comment)

Create an Account
Forgot your login or password?
Login w/ OpenID
English • Español • Deutsch • Русский…